Problems For the Skeptics I

 

                                  By Phillip O’Donnell

 

      The Following article is not copyrighted and may be freely copied.

 

     Many of the skeptics are saying that the only people who claim to have dinosaurs or dinosaur-like creatures are lunatics and hoaxers. However, this can proven wrong quite clearly. Not only do the following accounts show the skeptics to be wrong, but also provides powerful evidence for the existence of dinosaurs in recent times.

 

     In 323 B.C., Alexander the Great and  his  fighting men reported while in Africa, they were forced to retreat from a huge dragon that was 105 feet long and had eyes the size of a shield. It was apparently worshiped by the locals.

 

     In 1271 AD Marco Polo wrote that dragons were used in China to pull the emperor’s cart on special occasions.

 

      In 500 AD the “father” of written history (Herodotus) wrote that in Arabia he saw many leathery-winged, serpent-like creatures on the shore of the Nile Delta.

 

      In 565 AD, Saint Columba, a missionary from Ireland reported seeing a giant monster in Loch Ness.

 

     While visiting Lucerne, Switzerland in 1619, Christopher Shores reported seeing a giant winged dragon that had a long neck and tail, and large jaws.

 

    Around 722 to 705 the king of Assyria (King Sargon II) was sailing in the Mediterranean Sea when he stated that he saw a sea serpent.

 

      The following article was discovered in chronicle (from England) from 1405:

 

                                                  Close to the town of Bures, near

                                                  Sudbury, there  has lately appear-

                                                 ed, to the great hurt of the country-

                                                side, a dragon, vast in body, with

                                                 a crested head, teeth like a saw

                                                and a tail extend- ing an enormous

                                               length.

 

     In 1734, highly respected missionary Hans Egede wrote that he saw an enormous sea serpent near Greenland.

 

      An official government report from London, England, was written in 1793. It says the following:

      

       “In the end of November and the beginning of

      December last, many  of  the  country  people

      observed…dragons…appearing in  the  north

     and  flying  rapidly towards   the   east;  from

     which they concluded,  and their  conjectures

    were  right,  that   boisterous  weather would

    follow.”

 

       In 1848 Captain Peter M’Quhae and the crew of the H. M. S. Daedelus were off the coast of South Africa when they saw a sixty-foot sea serpent for twenty-minutes.

 

        At 10:15 AM, December 7, 1905, zoologists and members of the Zoological Society of London, Nicoll and Meade-Waldo observed a large plesiosaur-like creature off the coast of Brazil. The creature had a large fin on it’s back with a long neck and turtle-like head. The next day the crew of the ship reported seeing a strange creature. Please note that there were several plesiosaur sightings in South America about this time.

 

      In 1907, British Army officer Major Percy Fawcett was commissioned to settle a dispute between Bolivia, Peru, and Brazil concerning borders. While venturing deep into Amazon jungle he encountered an animal which he called a diplodocus. Major Fawcett was regard as a honest, “meticulous recorder of facts.

 

      “On July 30 1915, our U28  torpedoed  the  British  steamer  Iberian,  carrying  a  rich   cargo   in   the North  Atlantic.  The   steamer   sank   quickly,  the bow sticking almost  vertically  in  the   air.  When it had gone for  about  twenty-five  seconds,  there was a  violent  explosion. A little  later,  pieces  of the  wreckage,  and  among  them  a  gigantic  sea animal, withering and struggling wildly, was  shot out of the water to a height of 60  to 100  feet…  It was about 60 feet long,  was  like  a  crocodile  in shape, and had four limbs with  powerful  webbed feet, and a long tail tapering to a point.”

Captain Georg Von Forstner, Captain of the German submarine, U28 in World War I.

Also the British Navy recorded dozens of submarine periscope sightings, where there were no submarines.

 

       At 10:00 P.M., July 28, 1918 Commander Werner Lowisch of the submarine U-109 reported that he and another crew member saw a giant, crocodile-like monster that was near one-hundred feet in length.

 

      In 1943 lieutenant commander Russell Flint was motoring a boatful on soldiers across Loch Ness. “It was a gorgous, sunny day, we were heading south from Inverness, when there was the most terrific jolt, everybody was knocked back, and there it was, a very large animal form, which disappeared in a flurry of water. It was definite a living creature, certainty not a debris or anything like that.”

 He later to wrote to admiralty Headquarters:

“Regret to inform your lordships; damage to the starboard bow following colison with the Loch Ness Monster.”

 

      In 1964, an expedition led by G. Rukosuyer arrived  at Lake Khaiyr, Russia, searching for the alleged monster. A biologist and staff member of the Yakut Branch of the Academy of Sciences, N. Gladkika went to lake to get to water, when he saw a strange creature on shore. It had a small head, long neck, black skin, and a fin on it’s back. It appears in his sketch that the monster had large flippers. Later the expedition leader and several others saw the animal in the center of the lake. It was slapping the water with it’s long tail. Geologist, Rukosuyer wrote “You can imagine our astonishment when we saw with our own eyes that the stories were true.”

 

      On June 12, 1983, zoologist Owen Burnham and several of his family members were walking along the beach in Gambia, Africa when they discovered a dead reptile laying on the beach. It was about fifteen feet long, had four large flippers, large jaws, and a short neck. There is doubt in my mind that the creature belonged to a species of pliosaur (not plesiosaur). Soon after natives arrived took the creature away. However, Burnham buried the head of the creature in the sand and an expedition is going to be looking for it.

 

     At Lake Tele (Africa) in 1983, scientist Marcellin Agnaga was on an expedition when he saw Mokele-mbembe swimming in the lake. The creature was half-way out of the water and he could see it’s head, neck, and part of it’s body. His sketch resembles a sauropod dinosaur. He got his camera and began filming, but left the lens cap on and lost all proof of his encounter.

 

     While working with Campus Crusade for Christ in Nepal, Rev. Resham Proudal and his companions came across a 40 foot creature that resembled a log. It had very large jaws and his informants told him that it was a very dangerous “dragon” type creature.

 

     In May of 1995, a pastor and church elder in Papua New Guinea reported seeing a giant bipedal dinosaur in Lake Murray. Local natives soon affirmed also seeing a similar creature just a day before.

 

     After reading these documented reports how could one say that the witness are just lying? On July 19, 1896, there were over two-hundred people who saw a giant sea reptile off the New England coast. In the years following reports continued – in the hundreds. It is nigh impossible that all could have been lying or misidentified what they saw. Take for example the zoologist Owen Burnham, can you explain what he found other than a sea-going reptile that supposedly died out hundreds of millions of years ago (according to evolutionary teachings)?

     

Now for the skeptic’s comments.

 

Author – Carl Marychurch

Comment - What does the possible existence of surviving dinosaurs have to do with Evolution Theory?

 

Response - If the Holy Bible is completely true, then that would mean the dinosaurs have lived with humans. If a living dinosaur was found still living then that would prove that it was correct that men have seen dinosaurs. If a living pterosaur was found still living in Mexico or Texas (I have been in contact with a few witnesses) then why hadn't it been found in higher strata layers (If the layers built up over millions

of years)?

 

 

Author – Andya

Comment - Dinosaurs are extinct. It's a fact. The whole world has been thoroughly explored, and beasts as big as dinosaurs would've been spotted easily. But nobody has produced any serious evidence of the existence of dinosaurs in modern times. How about you post photos of dinosaurs you say are still living today to support your extraordinary claims? Otherwise you're just offering nonsense.

 

Response – Actually it is not a fact the dinosaurs and the entire world has thoroughly explored. Even Marine biologists admit that the oceans have been only 1% truly explored. You stated that if dinosaurs were still living then they would be seen easily. First the 55,000 square miles of swamp in Africa called the Likouala (where several dinosaurs have been seen) is less than 20% explored, only powerfully disproving your statement that the earth is completely explored. Second, dinosaurs are spotted! Yes, there is “serious evidence” for living dinosaurs. There are genuine photographs and films that advocate their existence.

 

The Question below is not from a Skeptic, but I thought to include it.

 

Author - Eric

Comment - Your claims for these animals being alive  seems to be nothing but hearsay evidence and much of it rather old. Do you have any recent bones, photos or other hard evidence that supports your position?

 

Response – Actually not all reports are hearsay and are old. On January 26, 2006 a Baptist missionary in Cameroon (Africa) reported seeing a dinosaur-like creature. Are there any recent bones? 300 year old bones were recently discovered that belonged to Megalania Prisca (the giant lizard that supposedly died out millions of years ago). As for photographs there are several good pictures that I will be posting on my website.

 

References

 

1.) Costello, Peter 1974. In Search of Lake Monsters Berkley Publishing Corporation

2.) O’Neill, J. P. 1999. The Great New England Sea Serpent Down East Books

3.) Gibbons, J. William (or Bill) Gibbons 2003. Missionaries and Monsters Creation Generation Publications

4.) Hovind, Kent and William (or Bill) Gibbons 1999. Claws, Jaws, and Dinosaurs CSE Publications

5.) Cooper, Bill 1995. After the Flood New Wine Press

6.) Gibbons, Bill 2003. Living with Dinosaurs The Creation Network, Inc.

7.) History’s Mysteries The Loch Ness Monster The History Channel

 

 

               Are Living Dinosaurs Possible?

If I told you there are dinosaurs still alive today, what you would be your reaction? Would you say “But dinosaurs went extinct millions and millions of years ago!” or maybe you would say “what living dinosaurs? I don’t see any dinosaurs.” This type of thinking is the result of evolutionary teachings being taught as fact in public schools. An early 1800’s dictionary lists dragons as “rare, but still living animals.” Throughout history it is has been an established fact that some types of dragons (dinosaurs) were living animals. In the 1700’s a pterosaur (flying dinosaur) carcass was on display in a museum in England.
Even in some places today where evolutionary theories haven’t been taught, it is common knowledge that dinosaurs still live. For example in Papua New Guinea, locals see a gigantic flying reptile called the Ropen. In our language it would be called a pterodactyl. In the deep jungle in the Likouala Swamp, Africa, natives occasionally seen long necked, long tailed, four legged reptiles browsing on plants on the shore of rivers. They call the creature “Mokele-mbembe” or “the water-dragon.” We call that type of creature an Apatosaur. In Australia, secluded tribes in outback sometimes see enormous, long necked, large bodied, reptile-like animals in some lakes. Again, we would call this animal a plesiosaurus. Even in some remote areas of Mexico, people have seen what we would call “pterodactyls.”
Is scientifically impossible for some dinosaurs to still be alive? Let’s look at some of the objections to the possibility of living dinosaurs:

• This earth is completely explored, there isn’t room for animals to live without being spotted.

There are many areas that haven’t been explored. Some places are: the Amazon jungle, the Likouala Swamp (covers over 55,000 sq. mi. of territory), the Ocean, etc… Could these areas house new animals unknown to science? Yes, there are thousands of new animals that have been discovered!

• If there are living dinosaurs, then where are the carcasses and dung, and why hasn’t one been discovered yet?

There were many animals that scientists had no idea they even existed! One was the Megamouth Shark, a 16 foot, deep-sea shark, that scientists didn’t even know they existed until the late 1960’s. The Okapi was believed to have gone extinct millions of years ago until it was discovered in the early 1900’s. A fish called the Coelacanth was written off as “extinct” by evolutionary scientists. In 1938 a living Coelacanth was found near South Africa. Could it be that evolutionary scientists are not always right?
Unfortunately a living dinosaur, does not “fit” well with evolutionary theories, which many of today’s scientists believe in. So they “roughly” shove away film and photographic evidence, verified eyewitness accounts, and ancient artifacts that depict dinosaurs. Is this true science? Or should we consider an alterative to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution.

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